3rd G-Grandfather - Krouvikivi - Kauvatsa - help requested

[petergmdale]

Greetings,

I’m trying to establish the parentage of my 3rd Great-Grandfather Erland Ericsson Krouvikivi. He was a crofter and born May 5, 1824 in Kauvatsa and died December 5, 1860 in Kauvatsa. On November 4, 1850 he married Johanna Henricsd Maijala in Tyrvää. The marriage entry states:

Announc. Married Village Farm Man Wife Village Farm - * 4.11.1850 Lievikoski by i Kauvatsa Kapell 407 Tp. Erland Eriksson Krouvikivi Bondedottren Johanna Henr:d:r I Roismala by Maijala hemman

My 2nd G-Grandmother Johanna Kristina Erlandsd Krouvikivi was born on December 9, 1856 in Lievikoski, Pälä, Krouvikivi, Kauvatsa.

I’ve been unable to identify Erland’s parents. However, I found a MyHeritage entry for an Eric Jacobsson Krouvikivi (July 15, 1790 – April 11, 1862) who married Anna Lisa Mattsd Ilola (September 6, 1796-December 23, 1869). She died in Lievikoski, Krouvikivi, Kauvatsa. I’m curious whether these may be Erland’s parents.

Any assistance in identifying Erland’s parentage would be very much appreciated. Kiitos!

Cheers,

Pete Dale
pdale (at) peterdale (dot) com

MyHeritage - https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-127571901-12-15487/anna-lisa-mattsdotter-krouvikivi-born-ilola-in-myheritage-family-trees?indId=externalindividual-5d4eda5e9d47e99484b3d5193c02ca99


Geni website - https://www.geni.com/people/Anna-Lisa-Krouvikivi/6000000069988119010

[Hannu Virttaalainen]

Kauvatsa Lievikoski Krouvinkivi communion book 1846-1852 http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=8342940
Erland (b.1824) is son, his wife Johanna and son Vicror are also shown there

[petergmdale]

Many thanks Hannu! That's just great and much appreciated. A quick follow-up if you don't mind. Is there anything in the link you provided that identifies where Eric Jacobsson Krouvikivi came from? After seeing your link, I've been able to track his wife's family (the Ilola family), but have been unable to identify from where Eric originates. Many thanks again! Cheers, Pete

[Hannu Virttaalainen]

As I am curious one, I think in Geni this is Eric Jacobsson https://www.geni.com/people/Eric-Jacobsson/6000000026885154205?through=6000000025360309298

Eric Jacobsson in Kauvatsa born 16 Juli Purila http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=8168965

Geni info must ofcourse be checked in originals

[petergmdale]

Greetings,

I’m trying to identify the parents of my 5th G-Grandfather Jacob Andersson (Puurila) who was born on July 10, 1747 and died on January 25, 1794 in Puurila, Kauvatsa. His wife was Anna Michelsd Kreula.

Jacob and Anna had a least 11 children including my 4th G-Grandfather Eric Jacobss Krouvikivi (1790-1862).

I am hoping that someone will be kind enough to please summarize 2 birth entries I’ve found for 2 of Jacob and Anna’s children. They are as follows:


[1] Maria, the first child, born January 1, 1771 in “Purila”. It is the 1st entry on the right-hand page of this link – https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/kauvatsa/syntyneet-vihityt-kuolleet_1761-1814_jk816/26.htm (Kauvatsa, Syntyneet-vihityt-kuolleet, 1761-1814 - JK816 - Kuva 26)

[2] Eric, my ancestor, born July 16, 1790 in “Purila”. It is the 5th entry from the top of the right-hand page of this link - https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/kauvatsa/syntyneet-vihityt-kuolleet_1761-1814_jk816/77.htm (Kauvatsa, Syntyneet-vihityt-kuolleet, 1761-1814 - JK816 - Kuva 77).

I don’t know where Jacob is from or who is parents are. Any assistance is appreciated. Kiitos!

Cheers,
Pete
pdale (at) peterdale (dot) com

[Hannu Virttaalainen]

Greetings,

I’m trying to identify the parents of my 5th G-Grandfather Jacob Andersson (Puurila) who was born on July 10, 1747 and died on January 25, 1794 in Puurila, Kauvatsa. His wife was Anna Michelsd Kreula.

Cheers,
Pete
pdale (at) peterdale (dot) com

Oldest document where I find Jacob Andersson is http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=8167269 in Puurila Kreula (Purila Greu) communion book 1768 - 1773, wife Anna is upper on same page as daughter of Kreula
Jacob came there year 1770
Perhaps Jacob's birthdate is wrong in Kauvatsa communion books ...

[Tuula Cu]

I'll try, good practice for me :-)

Baptism of Anna, a clearer picture: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=8168916:

parents as you have stated, testes: B(onde) Johan Andersson ifr Kumeå, Johan Johansson ifr Pout(tu?), Mats Johansson ibidem, hu(stru) Walborg Jöransdr ifr Kumeå, soldat hu Caisa Michelsdr, piga Maria Michelsdr, ... Maria Johansdr ifr Pout(t)u (last marking: the baptizer?)

Baptism of Eric, http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=8168965
parents Inh(yses) Jacob Andersson and 40 years old wife Anna Michelsdr. Testes: Simon Simonsson ifr ?, Henrich Mattsson, hu Maria Thomasdr, ..pig. Anna Johansdr ifr Poutti. (Simon's home place I cannot read.)

It may be that the Anders' sons are from Kumo/Kokemäki Kaurula Saxa?


Tuula K

[Hannu Virttaalainen]

I'll try, good practice for me :-)

Baptism of Anna, a clearer picture: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=8168916:

parents as you have stated, testes: B(onde) Johan Andersson ifr Kumeå, Johan Johansson ifr Pout(tu?), Mats Johansson ibidem, hu(stru) Walborg Jöransdr ifr Kumeå, soldat hu Caisa Michelsdr, piga Maria Michelsdr, ... Maria Johansdr ifr Pout(t)u (last marking: the baptizer?)

Baptism of Eric, http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=8168965
parents Inh(yses) Jacob Andersson and 40 years old wife Anna Michelsdr. Testes: Simon Simonsson ifr ?, Henrich Mattsson, hu Maria Thomasdr, ..pig. Anna Johansdr ifr Poutti. (Simon's home place I cannot read.)

It may be that the Anders' sons are from Kumo/Kokemäki Kaurula Saxa?


Tuula K

Kokemäki Kaurula Saksa bonden Johan Andersson (b. 5.5.1742) in http://users.utu.fi/isoi/talot/kokemaki.htm , so perhaps 1st testes (godfather) is brother of father from Kokemäki (Kumeå). For Johan I find in Hiski brother Jacob born 7.7.1747 in Kokemäki

[karisalm]

Hi

[1] Maria, the first child, born January 1, 1771 in “Purila”. It is the 1st entry on the right-hand page of this link – https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kir...4_jk816/26.htm (https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/kauvatsa/syntyneet-vihityt-kuolleet_1761-1814_jk816/26.htm) (Kauvatsa, Syntyneet-vihityt-kuolleet, 1761-1814 - JK816 - Kuva 26)
Faddrar: Bonde Johan Andersson ifrån Cumeå and h:o Walborg Jöransdott. ifrån Cumeå

Jacob, Johan and Walborg are here http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=7241422

Baptism of Jacob in Hiski 7.7.1747 8.7.1747 Kaurula Saxa Anders Mattsson Anna Johansdr Jacob

[Hannu Virttaalainen]

I'll try, good practice for me :-)

Baptism of Anna, a clearer picture: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=8168916:

parents as you have stated, testes: B(onde) Johan Andersson ifr Kumeå, Johan Johansson ifr Pout(tu?), Mats Johansson ibidem, hu(stru) Walborg Jöransdr ifr Kumeå, soldat hu Caisa Michelsdr, piga Maria Michelsdr, ... Maria Johansdr ifr Pout(t)u (last marking: the baptizer?)

Baptism of Eric, http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=8168965
parents Inh(yses) Jacob Andersson and 40 years old wife Anna Michelsdr. Testes: Simon Simonsson ifr ?, Henrich Mattsson, hu Maria Thomasdr, ..pig. Anna Johansdr ifr Poutti. (Simon's home place I cannot read.)

It may be that the Anders' sons are from Kumo/Kokemäki Kaurula Saxa?


Tuula K

Just noticed that Johan Andersson Saksa's wife was Walborg Jöransdr and in Anna's testes was also Walborg Jöransdr ifr Kumeå


PS. Esko huomasi samat kuin minä vähän nopeammin

[Hannu Virttaalainen]

To nail it down ;) Kokemäki Kaurula Saksa communion book 1766-1770 http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=7241592
Kaurila son Jacob Andersson, birthdate also in Kaurula Saksa communion book July 10, 1747, leaves from Saksa year 1770 :)

[Hannu Virttaalainen]

I'll try, good practice for me :-)

Baptism of Anna, a clearer picture: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=8168916:

parents as you have stated, testes: B(onde) Johan Andersson ifr Kumeå, Johan Johansson ifr Pout(tu?), Mats Johansson ibidem, hu(stru) Walborg Jöransdr ifr Kumeå, soldat hu Caisa Michelsdr, piga Maria Michelsdr, ... Maria Johansdr ifr Pout(t)u (last marking: the baptizer?)

Baptism of Eric, http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=8168965
parents Inh(yses) Jacob Andersson and 40 years old wife Anna Michelsdr. Testes: Simon Simonsson ifr ?, Henrich Mattsson, hu Maria Thomasdr, ..pig. Anna Johansdr ifr Poutti. (Simon's home place I cannot read.)

It may be that the Anders' sons are from Kumo/Kokemäki Kaurula Saxa?


Tuula K
"Johan Johansson ifr Pout(tu?), Mats Johansson ibidem" are I think from Kontti in same Puurila village like Kreula not from Pouttu, but it didn't matter when looking origin of Jacob Andersson ;)

[petergmdale]

Kiitos - kiitos - kiitos! You are all amazing! Much appreciated.



Cheers,


Pete