Arkistonäkymässä ei tällä hetkellä lainaus erotu varsinaisesta viestistä. Suosittelemme että vilkaisette ns. täydellistä versiota: : Arni, Aarni
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Hei ystävät. Anna minulle anteeksi, että voin puhua vain englantia.
Vanhin esivanhempieni sukunimi muuttuu? Lopussa oleva kuva on peräisin Tornion rakennuksesta 1797. Uskon, että se liittyy esivanhempiini.
I am from Saskatchewan, Canada. My ancestors departed Finland for the United States of America and departed the USA for Canada. I have followed my family tree, but I would like any more information if possible. I have done extensive work, but I feel I may be missing more information. Here is what I know. I will omit the most modern ancestors.
-Peter Arvid Aarni - (Married Anna Alina Pihlaja)
24 Sep 1885 - Tornio, Lappi, Finland
13 May 1966 - Chisholm, St Louis, Minnesota, USA
-Johan Petter Aarni - (Married Ida Karolina Kattan)
4 Jun 1855 - Finland (Not sure on birthplace)
25 Oct 1932 - Otter Tail County, Minnesota, USA
===At this point in time records spell surname Arni or Aarni, I don't know why====
-Alexander Nilsson Arni - (Married Eva Caisa Abrahamsdotter Vuoti)
28 Nov 1824 - Unverified location of birth (Finland)
Unverified date of death (Finland)
-Nils Andersson Arni - (Married Greta Stina Mickelsdotter)
22 Oct 1791 - Unverified location of birth (Finland)
25 Nov 1860 - Unverified location of death (Finland)
-Anders Andersson Arni - (Married Stina Larsdotter)
1764 (unverified, but found in a document)
5 Mar 1824 - Unverified place of death
===In 1790 marriage document, Anders Andersson surname is Heikurainen, and Stina Larsdotter is Arni did he take Stina Larsdotter surname instead of Heikurainen?)
My confusion is mostly about Anders Andersson Arni (Heikurainen?)
https://jouninsukusivut.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/aarnin-talo.png
-Nevin A
Saskatchewan, Canada
From http://hiski.genealogia.fi/hiski/9zhcn7?en+0007 you can search with
Years 1824 - 1824
Father's first name: NILS
Child's first name: ALEX
And you find
Alatornio - Nedertorneå - christened
*28.11.1824 2.12.1824 Öf: Rau: (p: 777) Ih: Nils Anderss: Arni Greta Stina 29 Alexander
And through all the parishes with
Years 1785 - 1815
Father's first name: AND
Father's patronymic: AND
Mother's first name: STINA
Mother's patronymic: LARS
You find
Alatornio - Nedertorneå - christened
*5.7.1790 6.7.1790 Björckö Anders Andersson Esko Stina Larsd:r 26 år Johannes (+)
*22.10.1791 23.10.1791 Björckö Anders And:s: Esko Stina Larsd:r 28 Nils
*18.11.1792 20.11.1792 Påtan Anders And:s: Aarni Stina Larsd:r 28 Carl
*6.11.1793 8.11.1793 Påtan And: And:s: Arni Stina Larsd:r 28 Johannes
*11.12.1797 12.12.1797 Påtan Anders And:s: Arni Stina Larsd:r 34 Henric
Try also "All" with last name *arni in Alatornio parish.
Arno
Thank you. I do have that information, and have searched extensively using that website. I am unsure as to why the male surname changes? There is Arni, Esko, and possibly Heikurainen in information that I find.
Any idea why the surname would change?
Ajatus miksi sukunimi muuttuu?
In 1790 marriage document, Anders Andersson surname is Heikurainen, and Stina Larsdotter is Arni did he take Stina Larsdotter surname instead of Heikurainen?)
My confusion is mostly about Anders Andersson Arni (Heikurainen?)
From the Alatornio Communion Book 1791-1798 (http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=4851821) you can see, that the name Arni is the name of the house number 8 of the Påtan village. As Anders Andersson Heikurainen came to the farm to live, he took the name of the house (or people started to call him with name of the house). The name Heikurainen is a surname, that passed from father to children, as surnames passed in the rural East Finland. In the rural West, people were distinguished by the name of the house.
Arno
Esko is the name of the house 8 in Björkö village.
Alatornion seurakunnan arkisto - Rippikirja 1791-1798 (AI:4), jakso 107, sivu 212-213: Björkö N:o 1-8; Kansallisarkisto: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=4851817 / Viitattu 28.2.2019
Thank you very much! That is what I had thought, but was unsure of. The oldest ancestor I have would then be:
-Anders Nilsson Heikurainen
2 Nov 1731 (Unsure where he was born, Unsure if dates are exact)
10 Mar 1793 Laivaniemi, Alartornio, Finland
Any clues to this ancestor? I can find a record in Sweden archives.
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/person?Namn=Heikurainen&page=2&tab=post&FacettState=undefined%3Ac|&AvanceradSok=True&postid=Bouppteckningar_F3E5F71D-CA0C-42DB-8F95-C4E3EBD1F86E-6CBF7737-5D6D-453E-B740-4020BB6F461A#tab
It seems that the name Heikurinen is in Alatornio also the name of a house, Björkö number 7. So it was not a surname, but somebody with surname Heikurinen from the Savo area has given his name to the house.
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/person?Namn=Heikurainen&page=2&tab=post&FacettState=undefined%3Ac|&AvanceradSok=True&postid=Bouppteckningar_F3E5F71D-CA0C-42DB-8F95-C4E3EBD1F86E-6CBF7737-5D6D-453E-B740-4020BB6F461A#tab
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As the Heikura/Heikurainen house was in Björkö, these may be children of Nils Andersson Heikurainen.
Alatornio - Nedertorneå - christened
*4.8.1726 7.8.1726 Biörckön Nils Andersson Malin Johansd:r Malin
*31.12.1729 1.1.1730 Biörckön Nils Andersson Malin Johansd:r Nils
*2.11.1731 3.11.1731 Biörckön Nils Andersson Malin Johansd:r Anders
*12.12.1734 13.12.1734 Biörckön Nils Anderss: Heicoranda Malin Johansd:r Abraham (+)
*17.11.1737 20.11.1737 Biörckön Nils Andersson Malin Johansd:r Margaretha
*10.6.1744 11.6.1744 Biörckön Nils Anderson Heicoranda Malin Johansd:r Maria (tvill{}+)
*10.6.1744 11.6.1744 Biörckön Nils Anderson Heicoranda Malin Johansd:r Abluna (tvill{}+)
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https://sok.riksarkivet.se/person
Search Heikurainen for name. It will be first link. This may be relevant information.
Communion Book 1750-1762, page 231 (right side)
http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=4851451
Björckö
1/3 Nils Andersson Heikurans [someone has read it Heikoranta] 50
Hust Malin Johans dotter ??? 40 (48?)
S. Johan 25
[wife and children]
Son Nils 19
[wife]
Anders 18
Margreta 13
Carin 10
Brita 10
The ages are for the year 1750, so Nils was born about 1700.
In the Swedish archive is the estate inventory (bouppteckning) after Anders Nilsson Heikurainen, who died on the 10th of March 1793. You have to pay to see it.
Here he is in Laivaniemi in the Alatornio Communion Book 1791-1798, marked död, dead.
http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=4851770
Thank you so much. You have given me great information! Thank you!
Do you think the Swedish archive record would be worth looking at? I am not sure what type of information they recorded in these documents. I will have to research this.
Do you think the Swedish archive record would be worth looking at? I am not sure what type of information they recorded in these documents. I will have to research this.
Something like this one from Alatornio 1811.
http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=77960571
Wife, children, inventory, etc.
Communion Book 1750-1762, page 231 (right side)
http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=4851451
Björckö
1/3 Nils Andersson Heikurans [someone has read it Heikoranta] 50
Hust Malin Johans dotter ??? 40 (48?)
S. Johan 25
[wife and children]
Son Nils 19
[wife]
Anders 18
Margreta 13
Carin 10
Brita 10
The ages are for the year 1750, so Nils was born about 1700.
Is it realistic to be able to find more, anything prior to 1700?
For the next ancestor, the only information I can guess at is this:
Nils Andersson Heikurainen
1702 - Pirkkiö, Alatornio, Lappi, Suomi-Finland
14 Apr 1777 - Pirkkiö, Alatornio, Lappi, Suomi-Finland
Buried - 3 May 1777 Pirkkiö, Alatornio, Lappi, Suomi-Finland
I found this on another website. No sources listed. I have yet to research it.
These two connect Anders Andersson Heikurinen-Aarni and Anders Nilsson Heikurinen as father and son:
1. Alatornion seurakunnan arkisto - Vihittyjen luettelot 1771-1813 (EII:1), jakso 16: 1790; Kansallisarkisto: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=4940139 / Viitattu 1.3.2019
Married: "14 Martii Ung* Anders Andersson Heikurinen i Laimi", short for Laivaniemi, spelled also Lai:mi, and "Pig Christina Larsdotter Arni ifr: Påtan".
2. Alatornion seurakunnan arkisto - Rippikirja 1780-1787 (AI:3), jakso 47, sivu -93: Laivaniemi - Oförsagd, ? , Flygel, Stråhlberg, Hast, Hookana, Kanderberg, Gouverneur, Heikkurainen, -- Laivajärvi - 1. Partanen, 2. Partanen, 3. Pekkala, 4. Pekkala; Kansallisarkisto: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=4851668 / Viitattu 1.3.2019
Communion Book 1780-1787, Laivaniemi
Inh: Anders Nilsson Heickurainen
hust Anna Johansdr
Son Johannes
Anders
dotter Malin
In the service digihakemisto.appspot.com many of the online sources of the National Archive of Finland have catalogues built by the public. Much work has been done with Alatornio. See http://digihakemisto.appspot.com/index_am?atun=184266.KA&amnimeke=Alatornion+seurakunnan+arkisto
About older sources you could ask in the Lappi - Lappland area of this forum.
I want to thank you again for the work you have helped me with. You have given me some new information, some I already knew, but I greatly appreciate the help. Thank you.
I believe further ancestors originate from Sweden, but I am still investigating.
I believe further ancestors originate from Sweden, but I am still investigating.
If your ancestors originate from Alatornio - Nedertorneå, they originate from the Västerbottens län (Western Botnia) of that time. Västerbottens län, and Norrbottens län separated from it 1810, are now part of Sweden. When the border between Russia and Sweden came to the Torneå river in 1809, Alatornio came to be part of the Österbottens län (Eastern Botnia), which is a part of Finland. So most of the documents prior to 1809 are in the Swedish archives of the Västerbottens län, for example census documents (mantalslängder).
Map of the area before 1809.
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A4sterbotten#/media/File:Svpmap_vaesterbotten.png
If your ancestors originate from Alatornio - Nedertorneå, they originate from the Västerbottens län (Western Botnia) of that time. Västerbottens län, and Norrbottens län separated from it 1810, are now part of Sweden. When the border between Russia and Sweden came to the Torneå river in 1809, Alatornio came to be part of the Österbottens län (Eastern Botnia), which is a part of Finland. So most of the documents prior to 1809 are in the Swedish archives of the Västerbottens län, for example census documents (mantalslängder).
Map of the area before 1809.
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A4sterbotten#/media/File:Svpmap_vaesterbotten.png
You are probably correct. I believe they came from Tuvan, Skellefteå, Västerbottens, Sweden. I am still researching. :)
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