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Kivinen
31.08.08, 22:08
ILMARINEN ( HILL) from JURVA maybe Teuva
Hello,

I'm trying to see if anyone has information on persons that would be my great great grandparents and their ancestors. The following information is the only information that I have. At one time the (Hill) family from the Elias listed below was Washington state's largest family, according to articles in The Columbian newspaper - Vancouver, WA.

Surname in Finland was ILMARINEN, name used in the USA is HILL.

My maternal great grandfather is:

Elias Hermansson Ilmarinen- HILL: born on 15 Feb 1864 in Jurva, Finland; married 28 May 1890, Apostolic Lutheran Church, Hockinson, Washington; died on 6 Jan 1942 in Hockinson, Washington

his wife (my great grandmother) is:
Hilda JOHNSON: born on 17 May 1873 in Calumet, Michigan; died on 25 Jun 1960 in Hockinson, Washington

Father of Elias is:
Herman ILMARINEN: Most likely was in Jurva, some family memories say possibly with a Teuva connection.

Kivinen
11.02.09, 21:46
Hei,

In HisKi, I see this marriage that took place in Teuva:

Teuva - Östermark - married

* Man's last name: ILMARINEN => Ilmarinen

Announc. Married Village Farm Man Wife
* 30.11.1842 Bd.s. Joseph Josephss. Ilmarinen Bd.d:r Hedvig Joh.d:r Warala
************************************

Can anyone see if Joseph is the father of Herman?

I am "stuck" and can not go further back.

I believe Herman Ilmarinen would have been born "about" 1844.

Herman's children were born in Jurva, but maybe Herman was from Teuva?

Any help is appreciated.:)

annsan
13.02.09, 14:56
Hello,
Father of Elias: HERMAN birth 21.9.1825 Brandt > Ilmarinen. Father Fredrik Brandt (Brandstroem) born 1750, cantor in Teuva from 1784, died 22.4.1818 (67.11.3) Teuva. Mother Margareta died 1837 (86) Teuva. The parents of Fredrik and Margareta are not known.
HERMAN Fredriksson Brandt 21.9.1825, wife Ulrica Jacobsdr 23.7.1822 Myllaeri Teuva (parents Jacob Ersson and Anna Jacobsdr Myllaeri).
Children: Jacob 22.1.1848, Anna Lisa 21.6.1850, Ulrika 26.5.1854, Josephina 6.10.1855, Maria 17.2.1859, Lena 25.4.1861, Elias 15.2.1864, Amalia 2.6.1866.

Kivinen
14.02.09, 09:59
Hello,
Father of Elias: HERMAN birth 21.9.1825 Brandt > Ilmarinen. Father Fredrik Brandt (Brandstroem) born 1750, cantor in Teuva from 1784, died 22.4.1818 (67.11.3) Teuva. Mother Margareta died 1837 (86) Teuva. The parents of Fredrik and Margareta are not known.
HERMAN Fredriksson Brandt 21.9.1825, wife Ulrica Jacobsdr 23.7.1822 Myllaeri Teuva (parents Jacob Ersson and Anna Jacobsdr Myllaeri).
Children: Jacob 22.1.1848, Anna Lisa 21.6.1850, Ulrika 26.5.1854, Josephina 6.10.1855, Maria 17.2.1859, Lena 25.4.1861, Elias 15.2.1864, Amalia 2.6.1866.
annsan,

Paljon kiitoksia!

Where did you find this?

Do you have any idea where "Ilmarinen" name came from for this?

You are the first that has maybe broken my "brick wall".

Best - Ilmari

p.s. the "cantor" makes perfect sense... in the USA, they gave land, money and much sweat to the Laestadius version of the Lutheran Church.

Please do tell me where you found this.

annsan
16.02.09, 19:11
Fredrik Brandt direkted singing of hymns in Teuva church (without instrument). Organ was got in Teuva 1901. He also made smallbox vaccination and was a kind of communicator between vicar and parish.
Ilmarinen was in Järvenpää village in Teuva, but this village was moved to Jurva about 1860.
Ilmarinen is an old Finnish name and its origin is not known. Mylläri is too in Järvenpää village.
Friedrich Brandström and Margareta Henrichsdotter were married 17.4.1775 in Teuva. Margareta might have been from Uppa-farm.
These kowledge can be found from Teuva and Jurva church books and they are not yet in internet.

Kivinen
17.02.09, 22:05
annsan,

Thank you VERY much.

Kivinen
18.02.09, 10:34
Hello,
Father of Elias: HERMAN birth 21.9.1825 Brandt > Ilmarinen. Father Fredrik Brandt (Brandstroem) born 1750, cantor in Teuva from 1784, died 22.4.1818 (67.11.3) Teuva. Mother Margareta died 1837 (86) Teuva. The parents of Fredrik and Margareta are not known.
HERMAN Fredriksson Brandt 21.9.1825, wife Ulrica Jacobsdr 23.7.1822 Myllaeri Teuva (parents Jacob Ersson and Anna Jacobsdr Myllaeri).
Children: Jacob 22.1.1848, Anna Lisa 21.6.1850, Ulrika 26.5.1854, Josephina 6.10.1855, Maria 17.2.1859, Lena 25.4.1861, Elias 15.2.1864, Amalia 2.6.1866.
annsan,

Another question.

Do you know if there are any records of these other children?

Did they also immigrate? or die?

Thank you!

annsan
21.02.09, 13:59
Hello,
HERMAN Fredriksson Brandt Ilmarinen b.21.9.1825 Teuva; sp: ULRICA Jacobsdr Mylläri b.23.7.1822 Teuva-d.7.12.1873 Jurva. They lived in Järvenpää village of Teuva on the farm Ilmarinen. After being left widower Herman moved to Teuva 1873.

1) Jacob Hermansson b.1848 Teuva, Jurva, to Teuva 1872, to Kauhajoki 1875; sp: Serafia Johansdr Ilmarinen (<Koskela) b.1849 Kauhajoki.
2) Anna Lisa Hakala (<Hakala, Ilmarinen Brandt) b.1850 Jurva, to Teuva 1866; ps: Anders Andersson Hakala (Tuokkola) b.1851 Teuva, to Teuva 1874.
3) Herman Brandt Ilmarinen b.1852
4) Ulrika Sjöblom (<Ilmarinen) b.1854-d.1895 Teuva, to Teuva 1878; sp: Bernhard Otto Bernhardsson Sjöblom b.1857 Teuva-d.1936 Teuva, children 8 with Ulrika; Yrjö (George) Bernhardsson Sjöblom b.16.11.1891 Teuva, AMERICA.
5) Josefina Ilmarinen b.1855 Jurva, Teuva.
6) Maria Brandt Ilmarinen b.1859.
7) Leena Aho (<Ilmarinen) b.1861 Jurva, Teuva; sp: Johan Johansson Aho (Lakso) b.1848 Jurva, to laihia 1907; children 13.
-Anna Lisa Seppälä (<Aho) b.29.4.1855 Jurva; sp: Viktor Seppälä; Martta Viktorsdr Miller (<Seppälä); AMERICA
-Alma Sofia Aho b.25.8.1887 Jurva, AMERICA.
-Johan Richard Aho b.9.4.1890 Jurva, AMERICA.
-Edla Maria Aho b.17.2.1892 Jurva, AMERICA.
-Aleksander Aho b.26.9.1898 Jurva, AMERICA.

8) Elias Ilmarinen b.15.2.1864 Jurva, AMERICA
9) Amalia Brandt Ilmarinen b.1866-d.1866.

Can you mail your e-mail addres. There are lot of information?

Kivinen
21.02.09, 20:39
annsan,

Kiitoksia oikein paljon.

Olen lähettänyt oman sähköpostiosoitteen teille yksityisen viestin.

Pyydän anteeksi, jos Suomi on virheellinen.

Terveisin, Ilmari

[Olen yrittänyt käyttää Google kääntää.] :eek:

Ilmarinen81
25.06.10, 09:21
Hello My name is Trevor Hill and Im from Vancouver Wa, My Great Grandfather was Victor Hill (Ilmarinen) he was a logger. Im the Grandson of Erland Hill and the Son of Terry Hill all of Vancouver Wa, I would love to chat with you, Im in search of Family History and to find out where my family is from in Finland in order to go visit and find living relatives in finland. Please email me at trevthebarber*yahoo.com. Thanks Trev

Kivinen
25.06.10, 09:37
Hi Trevor.

Yes, we're related.

Let's see... you are Erland's grandson so that makes us???

2nd cousins once removed. I'd be your Dad's 2nd cousin.

Mom is Erland's 1st cousin.

I think I have that correct!?!

Ilmarinen81
25.06.10, 09:53
That is so awesome, I cant sleep tonight im so excited to start finding out more about our families heritage, where we are from, the origin of our name and to hopefully locate and visit distant family in Finland, Im even look up how to speak finnish.

kaarina
25.06.10, 17:07
ILMARINEN ( HILL) from JURVA maybe Teuva
Hello,

I'm trying to see if anyone has information on persons that would be my great great grandparents and their ancestors. The following information is the only information that I have. At one time the (Hill) family from the Elias listed below was Washington state's largest family, according to articles in The Columbian newspaper - Vancouver, WA.

Surname in Finland was ILMARINEN, name used in the USA is HILL.

My maternal great grandfather is:

Elias Hermansson Ilmarinen- HILL: born on 15 Feb 1864 in Jurva, Finland; married 28 May 1890, Apostolic Lutheran Church, Hockinson, Washington; died on 6 Jan 1942 in Hockinson, Washington

his wife (my great grandmother) is:
Hilda JOHNSON: born on 17 May 1873 in Calumet, Michigan; died on 25 Jun 1960 in Hockinson, Washington

Father of Elias is:
Herman ILMARINEN: Most likely was in Jurva, some family memories say possibly with a Teuva connection.

Here is Elias. From Jurva church books, online.
http://www.digiarkisto.org/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/jurva/rippikirja_1865-1874_mko1-19/539.htm

http://www.digiarkisto.org/sshy/index_eng.htm