What is the spelling of Havela?

[KrizR]

Hi,
Take a look at this page, upper lefthand corner:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/lohtaja/rippikirja_1725-1732_uk516/36.htm

Is the spelling of the farm name Stoor Hafwela or Stoor Hafrvela?

[tkukkonen]

Later books show that Havela or Hawela exists in Lohtaja.

Thus, the farm name is not Stoor Hafrvela, although it seems to have been written so in the image you have found.

"Stoor" is greater in English. Often but not always such prefixes are dropped away in later books.

[Calonius]

It is Hafwela, but in modern Finnish fw ---> v.

[KrizR]

Thank you very much for replies.
There are many strange spellings used for names in the 17th and 18th centuries. I am interested in exactly which spellings are used in the various sources.
In the source I referred to I find it difficult to interpret the forth letter as a 'w'.
To me it clearly looks like 'rv'. But I am no expert at Finnish handwriting of this period.
If we look at a later source like:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/lohtaja/rippikirja_1741-1754_uk516/85.htm
we see a clearly written 'w' which is distinctly different from the letters of the earlier source.
However, later in the same rippikirja:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/lohtaja/rippikirja_1741-1754_uk516/204.htm
we again see a spelling which to me looks like 'rv'.

Looking at the next rippikirja:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/lohtaja/rippikirja_1755-1761_uk516/84.htm
the spelling is now clearly 'Hawela' without the 'f'.
Later on the spelling changes to 'Havela' for the rest of the century.

The reason for my interest in these spellings is that I am looking for surnames that could have been derived from Havela by people who originate from this farm.
E.g. in Turku and surrounding area there is in the 18th and 19th centuries the surname 'Harfvelin'. Could this name have been derived from some early spellings of Havela? And is it likely that people with this surname came from Havela at some point in time?

[Kimmo Kemppainen]

That's Hafwela, 100 % sure.
Kimmo Kemppainen

Thank you very much for replies.
There are many strange spellings used for names in the 17th and 18th centuries. I am interested in exactly which spellings are used in the various sources.
In the source I referred to I find it difficult to interpret the forth letter as a 'w'.
To me it clearly looks like 'rv'. But I am no expert at Finnish handwriting of this period.
If we look at a later source like:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/lohtaja/rippikirja_1741-1754_uk516/85.htm
we see a clearly written 'w' which is distinctly different from the letters of the earlier source.
However, later in the same rippikirja:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/lohtaja/rippikirja_1741-1754_uk516/204.htm
we again see a spelling which to me looks like 'rv'.

Looking at the next rippikirja:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/lohtaja/rippikirja_1755-1761_uk516/84.htm
the spelling is now clearly 'Hawela' without the 'f'.
Later on the spelling changes to 'Havela' for the rest of the century.

The reason for my interest in these spellings is that I am looking for surnames that could have been derived from Havela by people who originate from this farm.
E.g. in Turku and surrounding area there is in the 18th and 19th centuries the surname 'Harfvelin'. Could this name have been derived from some early spellings of Havela? And is it likely that people with this surname came from Havela at some point in time?

[Kimmo Kemppainen]

Neither Havela nor Harvelin is a typical Finnish name but both are rather scarce. There is no obvious relationship between the two, they probably have nothing to do with one another save the fact that both originated on the west coast.
Kimmo Kemppainen

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E.g. in Turku and surrounding area there is in the 18th and 19th centuries the surname 'Harfvelin'. Could this name have been derived from some early spellings of Havela? And is it likely that people with this surname came from Havela at some point in time?

[KrizR]

Thank you for the replies. I bow to your expertise :-)