Ruuth families of Uusimaa

[petergmdale]

Greetings,

I set forth below a query that I posted on another family forum regarding the Ruuth family. I also attach a link to the forum itself as I reference it in my post. (see - http://aforum.genealogi.se/discus/messages/576/143973.html?1274656380 (http://aforum.genealogi.se/discus/messages/576/143973.html?1274656380)). I’d welcome any thoughts, conjecture or pure speculation on the background and origin of Simon Nicolai Ruuth and the Ruuth family from Lohja/Lojo discussed by Leif Tennare in the prior link. Kiitos! Pete

“I’m seeking information regarding my 12th Great-Grandfather Simon Nicolai Ruuth. I suspect he was from, or originated near, Lojo/Lohja where he was the Assistant Vicar in 1573 or elsewhere in Uusimaa. I’d be grateful for any information whatsoever regarding such families or any thoughts on the background or parentage of Simon. I set forth his details below. Thank you!

12th Great-Grandfather - Simon Nicolai Ruuth – Simon likely came from Nyland/Uusimaa. Records reveal that Simon was the Assistant Vicar of Lohja from 1573 (http://hiski.genealogia.fi/seurakunnat/srk?CMD=PRIESTS&ID=300&TYPE=HTML&LANG=FI (http://hiski.genealogia.fi/seurakunnat/srk?CMD=PRIESTS&ID=300&TYPE=HTML&LANG=FI)), Assistant Vicar of Alatornio (on the east side of the river) – 1596-1603 (http://hiski.genealogia.fi/seurakunnat/srk?CMD=PRIESTS&ID=7&TYPE=HTML&LANG=FI (http://hiski.genealogia.fi/seurakunnat/srk?CMD=PRIESTS&ID=7&TYPE=HTML&LANG=FI)), Assistant Vicar of Kemi – 1586-1593 and Clergyman of Kemi – 1593-1608 (http://hiski.genealogia.fi/seurakunnat/srk?CMD=PRIESTS&ID=190&TYPE=HTML&LANG=FI (http://hiski.genealogia.fi/seurakunnat/srk?CMD=PRIESTS&ID=190&TYPE=HTML&LANG=FI)). According to H. J. Boström’s book “Shepherd memory of the town of Alatornio and Tornio during Sweden’s power”, Simon was named Assistant Vicar of Alatornio in 1596 after having served 13 years as an Assistant Vicar of Lohja and 8 years as a Military Chaplain.

The Bishop of Turku sent Simon to Tornio at the request of the Clergyman Eschillus Andreae Ruuth (http://www.kansallisbiografia.fi/paimenmuisto/?eid=2156 (http://www.kansallisbiografia.fi/paimenmuisto/?eid=2156)) who was seeking an Assistant Vicar. I suspect that Eschillus was his maternal uncle as Simon’s mother’s patronymic is Andersdotter (see - http://www.kansallisbiografia.fi/paimenmuisto/?eid=2160 (http://www.kansallisbiografia.fi/paimenmuisto/?eid=2160)). Simon died suddenly at the pulpit of the Church of Kemi from which the parishioners carried his body into the mortuary. This likely occurred in 1609 because he was still alive on March 6, 1609. His spouse was Anna Henrikintytär and his daughter was Helena who was born in 1581. Helena’s second husband was the Clergyman of Nykarleby John Jacobi Nycarlus born June 2, 1589 and died March 1636. (source: http://www.genealogia.fi/vsk/12/12_22.htm (http://www.genealogia.fi/vsk/12/12_22.htm))”

Even if you are not familiar with the family discussed above, which of the traditionally identified Ruuth families do you believe that someone named Ruuth who lived in Lohja would have belonged to?

Cheers,

Pete

[petergmdale]

Greetings,

Just a brief follow-up to my post above. I would be very appreciative of any advice, direction or insights regarding the various Ruuth families of Uusimaa and, in particular, those Ruuth family members who lived in Lohja/Lojo. I am fairly certain that it is possible to trace Simon Nicolai Ruuth and his purported uncle Eschillus to one of these families. Kiitos!

Cheers,

Pete

[Erkki A Tikkanen]

...Simon died suddenly at the pulpit of the Church of Kemi from which the parishioners carried his body into the mortuary. This likely occurred in 1609 because he was still alive on March 6, 1609.
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Cheers,

Pete

Hi Pete, just a short notice.
Simon is mentioned still as a vicar/clergyman on 21 July 1615, (Kansallisbiografia: "Simon Nicolai mainitaan kuitenkin kirkkoherrana vielä 21.7.1615." )
http://www.kansallisbiografia.fi/paimenmuisto/?eid=2160

[petergmdale]

Hi Erkki,

Thank you for the post and information therein – much appreciated! I will keep searching. Thoughts or suggestions from any other readers regarding the Ruuth families in Uusimaa and, specifically, Lojha would be much appreciated.

Cheers,

Pete

[petergmdale]

Greetings,

I found the article below by Ragnar Dahlberg (I believe) quite interesting in that it discusses Eschillus’ relationship to the Ruuth family of Uusimaa. I cannot, however, fully translate what it says so I may have missed some nuances, etc.

http://runeberg.org/bokobibl/1931/0212.html (http://runeberg.org/bokobibl/1931/0212.html)

I have also reviewed H. J. Boström (SSV XII, 1929) which references Eschillus:

http://www.genealogia.fi/vsk/12/12_22.htm (http://www.genealogia.fi/vsk/12/12_22.htm)

The following are also somewhat informative:

http://solace.se/~blasta/herdamin/nedertornea.pdf (http://solace.se/~blasta/herdamin/nedertornea.pdf)

http://matsnilssonkolf.blogspot.com/2008/01/alatornion-historiaa-ja-niilo.html (http://matsnilssonkolf.blogspot.com/2008/01/alatornion-historiaa-ja-niilo.html)

I wonder whether Eschillus Andreae and Simon Nicolai were members of theSääksmäki Ruuth family? Anna Olofsdotter Ruuth (daughter of the Bailiff of Uusimaa Olof Andersson Ruuth and Margareta Simonsdotter) ended up in northern Finland married to Christiern Henriksson Lithovius (c. 1572 - c.1620). Eschillus could, perhaps, have been another son of Olof Andersson Ruuth. Olof would, however, have had to have had Eschillus quite young in order for that to work. Just speculating!

Cheers,

Pete

[petergmdale]

Greetings,

Just switching gears a bit, I thought I would set out below the specific posts regarding Ruuth individuals in Lohja that I have referred to above. I would be interested to see if they can be connected to Eschillus Andreae and Simon Nicolai - who was the Assistant Vicar of Lohja. The forum where these posts come from is found here

(http://aforum.genealogi.se/discus/messages/576/143973.html?1305574687).

Leif R. Blom (http://aforum.genealogi.se/cgi-bin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=view_profile&profile=eller-users)
(Eller)
Föreningsmedlem
Postat torsdagen 19 mars 2009 - 15:17 - Leif, tydligen får man söka i Tavstehus idag. Här är dock VÅNÅ 1731 :
http://www.digiarkisto.org/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/vanaja/rippikirja_1731-1736_ tk23/57.htm (http://www.digiarkisto.org/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/vanaja/rippikirja_1731-1736_tk23/57.htm) Som synes med hr Ryttmästaren Ruut.
1539 bor i Luthiala Jöns Michelsson, till 1567 då antagligen sonen Anders Jönsson tar vid. 1573 noteras det som öde. Först 1620 noteras en Jacob Tomasson, bonde. 1634 tilldelas det corporalen! Johan Botvids. Därefter noteras intet, mer än namnen Luhtiala och Katajisto till 1713.
Mvh Leif R.


Leif Tennare (http://aforum.genealogi.se/cgi-bin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=view_profile&profile=ten-users)
(Ten)
Föreningsmedlem
Postat torsdagen 19 mars 2009 - 15:50 - Var har du hittat uppgifterna om Jöns Michelsson och sonen Anders Jönsson? Är denne Jöns densamme som Jöns Michelsson (Kurjalasläkten)? Han noteras i Moisio i Lojo 1532. Jöns Michelsson i Vejby i lojo noteras för rusttj. 1537.
Enl. Ramsay hade dock inte Jöns ngn son med namnet Anders...

(Meddelandet ändrat av Ten den 19 mars, 2009)

[petergmdale]

In my post above I meant to say that perhaps Eschillus Andreae was a son of Anders Mattson Ruuth rather than Olof Andersson. However, I believe the timeline is too tight if Anders Mattson was born in 1513. Sorry for the confusion and thanks.

Cheers,

Pete

[petergmdale]

Greetings,

I corresponded with Leif Tennare and he stated in an e-mail, with respect to Simon and Eskil and their relationship to other Ruuth families in Uusimaa, the following:

“I am very sorry though, but I do not know of any Ruuth in Lojo. The reference to Lojo [see - http://aforum.genealogi.se/discus/messages/576/143973.html?1274656380 (http://aforum.genealogi.se/discus/messages/576/143973.html?1274656380)] was potentially applicable for a Jöns Michelsson who lived in Luthiala, who could be the same Jöns Mickelsson as was found later in Lojo. This Jöns Michelsson could be a brother-in-law to Mats Larsson (Ruuth).

However, I am not ruling out the possibility that Simon Nilsson Ruuth and Eskil Andersson Ruuth are in fact related to my ancestor Mats Larsson Ruuth. I am not prepared, as yet though, to put forward any kind of hypothesis about how they might be related. But, you can find not only a Simon but an Eskil as well among the descendants of Mats Larsson and Mats Larsson did have a son named Anders who could be the father of Eskil!”

I also saw another reference to Ruuth families in Northern Ostrobothnia originating in Porvoo. This is from a blog and I have no basis to qualify its credibility, etc. It stated:

“Older female ancestors in Pyhäjoki and other Northern Ostrobothian parishes were Frosterus, Chydenius and Ruuth ... Ruuth is tracked to Porvoo in Southern Finland and their oldest ancestor was Danish immigrant, probably merchant during the 1500s. So there was a family branch from Denmark.”

Cheers,

Pete