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immortalmorpheus
23.07.09, 11:20
I am currently trying to find some ancestors that came from around the Gamlakarleby, Finland area. In particular is Emil Anders Rasmus b. Feb. 14, 1884. Mother Johanna Lasso (Fasso??) Father Anders Rasmus. Emil Anders Rasmus and his Brother Runnar Emil Rasmus both came to the USA and settled in Astoria, Oregon. Emil Anders Married a woman named Fanny Jacobson. Runnar Emil Rasmus married a woman named Martha Niemi. I am actually interested in the parents of Runnar emil rasmus and Emil Anders Rasmus. If anyone can help me. I would be greatly appreciative.

Kivinen
24.07.09, 10:16
I have some friends in Nedervetil. The mother's maiden name is Rasmus. There are a couple of researchers on the west coast here that are in this line.

I'd suggest you also post this in Finlander Forum.

I don't recall the names of the researchers at the moment, maybe a Steele and a man named Larry.

PM me with an e-mail address if you want to see if I can put you in touch with them or the Rasmus line in Finland. There is an elderly Rasmus that moved from Karleby to Palos Verdes, California.

r-l.huuki
24.07.09, 12:18
I´ve got some information on this family. Source: Church records

Antti Jaakonpoika Känsäkangas, Rasmus, b. 24.5.1854 Känsäkangas, Kaustinen
Spouse: 16.7.1881 Kaarlela.
Maria Johanna (Hanna) Matintytär Hassinen, b. 1.7.1858 Kotkama, Korpilahti (Korplax) village, Kaarlela
Children:
Matti Rikard, b. 13.2.1882 Känsäkangas, Kaustinen. He migrated to America 1902
Antti Emil, b. 14.2.1884 Känsäkangas, Kaustinen. He migrated to America 1903
Hilda Elisabet, b. 9.6.1886 Rasmus, Sokoja, Kaarlela, d. 9.10.1900 Rasmus, Sokoja, Kaarlela.
Jaakko Alexander, b. 25.9.1888 Rasmus, Sokoja, Kaarlela.
Fritiof Heribert, b. 19.3.1891 Rasmus, Sokoja, Kaarlela.
Maria Elvira, b. 30.8.1893 Rasmus, Sokoja, Kaarlela.
Ernst Johannes, b. 19.2.1896 Rasmus, Sokoja, Kaarlela.
Ester Rebekka, b. 17.5.1898 Rasmus, Sokoja, Kaarlela, d. 9.2.1899 Rasmus, Sokoja, Kaarlela.
Otto Väinö, b. 17.3.1900 Rasmus, Sokoja, Kaarlela, d. 3.11.1900 Rasmus, Sokoja, Kaarlela.
Runar b. after 1903? I haven´t got Runar´s date of birth

Jaakko Heikinpoika Känsäkangas owned since 1884 one of the Rasmus farms in Kaarlela. Two of his sons Antti Jaakonpoika Känsäkangas (b. 24.5.1854) and Matti Jaakonpoika Känsäkangas (b. 8.10.1846 Kaustinen) moved to the Rasmus farm from Kaustinen 24.12.1884 with their families.

The parents of Maria Johanna (Hanna) Matintytär Hassinen (b. 1.7.1858) are:
Matti Jaakonpoika Kotkamaa, Hassinen (b. 11.2.1823 Kotkamaa, Korpilahti, Kaarlela, d. 18.1.1881 Hassinen, Korpilahti, Kaarlela) and Kaisa Liisa Matintytär Lillkotkama (b. 25.4.1822 Lillkotkama, Korpilahti, Kaarlela. Matti Jaakonpoika was crofter in Kaarlela and year 1848 in Toholampi (Source: Arto Hautala, Lampin Lestin suvut-book) and finally he was farmer at Hassinen farm in Korpilahti village, Kaarlela.

I can send more info later by e-mail, if you wish.

- Raija-Leena H

r-l.huuki
25.07.09, 10:23
Are you sure, that Runar Rasmus and Emil Anders Rasmus were brothers? When did Martha Niemi and Runar Rasmus get married?

Here is mentioned a man named Runar Johansson Rasmus. Could it be him?
http://www.sydaby.eget.net/swe/edb_o-r.htm#r
"RASMUS, Runar Matias Johansson
b. 4 Mar 1913, Karleby, Finland To Canada 1930"

- Raija-Leena H

r-l.huuki
25.07.09, 11:00
This might be the right one.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=celestialangel13&id=P3624773073
"Runnar Emil Rasmus
Birth: 4-10-1908 in Finland"

I just wonder: Maria Johanna (Hanna) Matintytär Hassinen, b. July 1, 1858, was nearly 50 years old.

- Raija-Leena H

immortalmorpheus
25.07.09, 21:54
This might be the right one.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=celestialangel13&id=P3624773073
"Runnar Emil Rasmus
Birth: 4-10-1908 in Finland"

I just wonder: Maria Johanna (Hanna) Matintytär Hassinen, b. July 1, 1858, was nearly 50 years old.

- Raija-Leena H

Hey Raija,

That actually is my family tree that you are linking to, I am celestialangel97701. :D: What is your question about Maria Johanna? What do you mean nearly 50 years old?

r-l.huuki
26.07.09, 07:43
Hey!

It is possible, that Maria Johanna. b. 1858, is Runar´s mother, even if it is not so usual to get babys in that age.
I¨m not able to check Runar´s birth in the Kaarlela parish birth and christening records for the year 1908, because records for that year are still missing in this archive (Jyväskylä).
National Archives of Finland may have those records already.

- Raija-Leena H

Kivinen
26.07.09, 08:18
In Talko database there is this entry:

Anders Jakobsson Känsäkangas- RASMUS
Birth 24 MAY 1854 Kaustby, Finland
Sex Male
Died 18 MAY 1935
Person ID I17973

Family 1 Maria Johanna Mattsdotter Lasso- KOTKAMA, b. 1 JUL 1858, Karleby, Karleby, Finland
Children
1. Maria Elvira Andersdotter RASMUS, b. 30 AUG 1893, Karleby, Karleby, Finland

Kivinen
26.07.09, 09:23
So this must be the death announcement for Emil's wife:

RASMUS, FANNY OLIVIA -- Born May 3, 1885, Sokaby, Gamlakar, Finland. Died Dec. 17, 1937, Astoria, Ore. Wife of Emil Rasmus. Father: Jacob Jacobson (b. Finland). Burial at Ocean View Cemetery.

Tapio Rautio
26.07.09, 11:24
Hello!

If You look at Tommy Ånäs database in talko,
You will find that the fatherline of Känsäkangas
goes to Olof Pollari born about 1430. Starting
with Henrik Mattsson Känsäkangas-Warg
12.12.1773 Kaustby-07.01.1844 Kaustby
married to Carin Johansdr Räf 4.11.1799 Kaustby.
Carin 15.05.1778-23.12.1861.

Tapio

immortalmorpheus
27.07.09, 05:49
So this must be the death announcement for Emil's wife:

RASMUS, FANNY OLIVIA -- Born May 3, 1885, Sokaby, Gamlakar, Finland. Died Dec. 17, 1937, Astoria, Ore. Wife of Emil Rasmus. Father: Jacob Jacobson (b. Finland). Burial at Ocean View Cemetery.

Yep, thats his wife alright! :)

immortalmorpheus
03.08.09, 07:21
Hey everyone,

I apologize but I was just looking over my info again and realized that I made a mistake when writing my original post. Emil Anders Rasmus is actually the Father of Runnar Emil Rasmus. Runnars parents were Emil Anders Rasums and Fanny Olivia Jacobson. I was actually looking for the parents of Emil Anders Rasmus, which Raija helped me find. I'm sorry for the mixup. :oo: